Posts by Village Idiot

when i first came to this forum i was of the belief that those of us who were still in due to family reasons were few in numbers perhaps one in a thousand in the jws.

soon i came to the realization that there were many more.

we have dozens of posters here who are mentally out but still in.

Jo_Sunshine, you're in a very tight spot because of your job situation. I hope your moving out of state helps your situation. Until then a simple fade is highly recommended. Don't do anything "official" like disassociating. The Elders are simply not worthy of it.

Tempest in a Teacup, I don't mean to be mean but I think that brother is on his way out.

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A Question for Underground Apostates, How Many Are There?

by Village Idiot in

when i first came to this forum i was of the belief that those of us who were still in due to family reasons were few in numbers perhaps one in a thousand in the jws.

soon i came to the realization that there were many more.

we have dozens of posters here who are mentally out but still in.

Village Idiot

@ the comet: "I know of 1 df'd person in the hall who is awake but trying to get reinstated for family reasons only."

Not that it might be relevant but do you know if that person got disfellowshipped for apostasy?

UFCFan, it's a long list, you're in.

crazyhorse, sorry to hear about your family and your loneliness. It seems like there's no hope for those who are not independent minded but you never know what could happen.

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A Question for Underground Apostates, How Many Are There?

by Village Idiot in

when i first came to this forum i was of the belief that those of us who were still in due to family reasons were few in numbers perhaps one in a thousand in the jws.

soon i came to the realization that there were many more.

we have dozens of posters here who are mentally out but still in.

Village Idiot

@ prologos: "...This is not an underground movement like the resistance in france or the partisans in Yugoslavia..."

It would be great if such a resistance could be formed but it might never happen. Everyone will have to go their separate way.

It's good to hear that there might be three mentally out thinkers.

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A Question for Underground Apostates, How Many Are There?

by Village Idiot in

when i first came to this forum i was of the belief that those of us who were still in due to family reasons were few in numbers perhaps one in a thousand in the jws.

soon i came to the realization that there were many more.

we have dozens of posters here who are mentally out but still in.

Village Idiot

cappytan, that's a pretty big congregation. Are you fading?

Edit: Never mind the question, I just saw your thread about your wife.

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A Question for Underground Apostates, How Many Are There?

by Village Idiot in

when i first came to this forum i was of the belief that those of us who were still in due to family reasons were few in numbers perhaps one in a thousand in the jws.

soon i came to the realization that there were many more.

we have dozens of posters here who are mentally out but still in.

Village Idiot

I think that any fader who doesn't have family to worry about might try an experiment with others that are fading and see whether they are TTATTs. They can pose a question like "I've noticed you haven't been at the meetings lately. Do you still think it's the truth?"

If he dodges the question that might be a signal that he is mentally out. You should not get in trouble with the elders for asking that question since it is one that they themselves may pose. Worth trying unless you think he/she might get in trouble.

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A Question for Underground Apostates, How Many Are There?

by Village Idiot in

when i first came to this forum i was of the belief that those of us who were still in due to family reasons were few in numbers perhaps one in a thousand in the jws.

soon i came to the realization that there were many more.

we have dozens of posters here who are mentally out but still in.

Village Idiot

Morpheus, I like your reference to both Anonymous and the Matrix. As I say whenever the subject comes up: "blue delusion, red reality" - give me the red pill any day.

OneEyedJoe, "...there's probably about 0.25-0.5% ...", a slightly conservative number but you are probably right. I'm just being a bit optimistic with my 1%.

The Searcher, that is one of the most unfortunate parts of the predicament that TTATTs have to go through. After they successfully fade they cannot go back in to find out about any other TTATTs.

It must be lonely being in that position.

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A Question for Underground Apostates, How Many Are There?

by Village Idiot in

when i first came to this forum i was of the belief that those of us who were still in due to family reasons were few in numbers perhaps one in a thousand in the jws.

soon i came to the realization that there were many more.

we have dozens of posters here who are mentally out but still in.

Village Idiot

Richard_I, good luck with your fade.

I do think that there must be more than a thousand TTATT still ins like you throughout the world especially in the US. I know of one still in who used to live in my JW apartment complex where there's about a hundred active witnesses and 15% of the tenants are disfellowshipped. I do think that it will be risky for them to try and hook up with the others; everyone keeps their guard up.